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Nietzsche borrowed this image from Dostoevsky in his Crime and Punishmentwhere eternal life is described as a room full of spiders. Dostoevsky, on the other hand, made use of tarantula spider because he once had a very frightening zarqthustra with it during his stay in Italy. There is no latent femininity at work at all, they are just making very hidden references. Moreover, when Nietzsche talked about loving the farthest man, he is deliberately challenging Dostoevsky, who claimed that we should love the nung man instead of the farthest.
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Be the first to ask a question about Nietzsche’s Zarathustra. Lists with This Book. A treasure trove of Jung’s thoughts on analytical psychology seen through the lens of Thus Spake Zarathustra. The drawback here is zarathusta. Jung allows a sequential reading of Nietzsche’s work noetzsche dictate the order of ideas presented, so a variety of topics–projection, the anima, Christianity–may appear together sarathustra one chapter whose uniting focus is a given passage from Zarathustra.
One multifaceted work therefore gives rise to another. It’s as if Jung donned a safari hat and took his audi A treasure trove of Jung’s thoughts on analytical psychology seen through the lens of Thus Spake Zarathustra. It’s as if Jung donned niefzsche safari hat and took his audience on a hunt for the wild Nietzsche–in Nietzsche’s own unconscious.
The result is fascinating, rewarding, and freewheeling, ultimately being very difficult to pick up a consistent thread of meaning from start to finish. A night of excessive consciousness, due to caffein overdose during the day, would be idealistic for writing down this review. First of all, a few objective remarks. This is not an interpretation of Zarathustra from a philosophical point of view. Another commentary on Zarathustra I read is Nietzsche’s Teaching: An Interpretation of zarathustfa Spoke Zarathustra”which is in all respect a more faithful interpretation.
I would not recommend this book to a fundamentalist of Nietzsche, but to nietzsfhe who would enjoy the tangling battle between two great minds. A third thing, and this is getting personal, is that, Nietzzsche had missed zarathuatra the ancient Greek aspect of Nietzsche. Jung is way too Christian in too many paragraphs. It surprised me, throughout the whole book, that Plato was mentioned so scarcely. For any serious person attempting to decipher ZarathustraI would recommend Jung and Lampert for a balanced diet.
Now comes to the commentary on Jung and the content of the book. If I have to choose only one word for commenting on this book, it would be “beautiful”. There are paragraphs everywhere illustrating a new point of view on old facts, shedding new light into what nieyzsche once thought ordinary.
Nietzsche inflamed me with worship of the sublime; a sincere worship which is at times blind and arrogant. Jung pointed to the defect of such worship. For this I am eternally zaarthustra. Throughout the book, Jung made clear distinction between Nietzsche the person and his greatness. Time and time again, he talked about how Nietzsche should not claim to be the maker of the figure Zarathustra. It is bewildering at first to read his comment on this matter.
Why, one would ask, should I see myself not as a hell of a fellow when I produced something marvelous?
Later on I was reading John Cassian: The Institutesand this question popped out surprisingly again in the chapter of Pride. I would imagine Jung nodding his head on this chapter, and says, in a more vivid way, that Nietzsche is possessed by the demon called Pride.
Jung’s Red Book
In some sense, Jung and Cassian are all very true and sharp. He would never have hoped for something loathing as Nazi, but look at what they made out of him! It would be a sheer arrogance if one should think one could exert influence on others, on the masses and charm them in the exact way one wished.
That being said, you could never hope to control your fate totally by your consciousness plots; you could do so in some limited extend. But here is the twilight zone. Sometimes Jung overlooked that and painted everything with the all-mighty collective unconsciousness. It would be a profound truth that such thing should exist; but such truth should stand the harshest attack in order to acquire its profoundness.
Jung fell short on this. An illustrating example would be his interpretation on the spider chapter. I really hoped to have a chance to challenge him with the following interpretation: The dead is dead.
In the case of Nietzsche, all is obscure, as Jung plainly admitted. Jung definitely felt the threat of such obscurity, which could rival or even overwhelm his clarity, as the Will to Power has shown. Sometimes I had the feeling that Jung is not the best person to interpret Zarathustra, because his constant urge of making a cosmos out of chaos is doing harm to the harmonic chaos that is Nietzsche.
Jung is too normed; he must make rules and hoped to keep them long-lasting as one can see from his Red Book. In my opinion, a better interpreter would be Freud. So much for what has come to my mind. The caffein has worn out. Jung had some interesting ideas about Nietzsche, and it is a good source for looking Nietzsche as a psychologist.
Feb 20, Andreas rated it it was amazing. The quest is the quest of the self-that is the precious thing which is difficult to attain; that is the hero’s fight and you are alone, and even have no weapons.
Truly this text is both a companion and something of an antidote to Zarathustra. Whilst Jung goes off on some pretty wild tangents and is quite generous in the use of some favourite anecdotes, taken as a whole, the lectures are highly engaging, if al little long-winded. Each attendee adds a distinct personality — from the slightly unwieldy Barbara Hannah to the bolder Toni Wolff.
Jung on Nietzsche’s Zarathustra: What Lies Beyond Good and Evil?
Between the seminar group there is zaratbustra solid coverage of different angles, albeit from a level of depth commensurate to nietsche psychological training and with the benefit of attending the seminars.
This means many of the questions are more intricate junf those which could be formulated by a layperson, but nonetheless, Jung does an admirable job stepping down the voltage in plain language. At over 1, pages, it is not a work of economy as narrow, thematically-focussed analyses of literature are wont to be, but an expedition which goes through by chapter with a fine-toothed comb.
A seminal work from Jung. The documented version of the series of lectures given by Jung in which he looks at Nietzsche’s essential text is an amazing insight. Jung may well have been the great unacknowledged magus of the 20th century. His insights into the motivation, meaning and possible psychological reasoning behind Nietzsche’s work are invaluable for students of Nietzsche and Jung.
The insight into the possible inflation of Nietzsche’s mind by the archetype calling itself ‘Zarathustra’ is p A seminal work from Jung. The insight into the possible inflation of Nietzsche’s mind hietzsche the archetype calling itself ‘Zarathustra’ is perhaps telling of Jung’s psychology and is thus invaluable for anyone seeking to understand the complex balances of zarathystra any form of consciousness through ritual and the nietzschr risks.
Jung’s notion that Nietzsche was unaware of the inflation and thus ultimately fell into madness is perhaps a warning for those who may dabble with invocation without a grasp of their own deific state first. Notes of the Seminar Given in [2 vol]. Princeton University Press The best analysis of symbolism in Thus Spoke Zarathustra, this tremendous work of some 1. Scandalously neglected by scholars of Nietzsche, Jung’s notes circulated for years among his students achieving a “cult” status.
In Jung’s reading Nietzsche is possessed by archetypical powers and eventually swallowed up by Zarathustra i C. Zarathustra thus becomes the sarcophagus of Mr Nietzsche: Zarathustra is a very wise and beautiful spirit in a way, and then he is the devil himself Mar 10, El rated it it was amazing.
Great lens to view Zarathrustra through, or useful as a window into Jung’s ideas, this transcript gives a comprehensive dissection of Nietzsche’s poetic-philosophic-prophetic masterpiece qua an analysis of the great philologist’s psyche.
Ironically, perhaps, given both Jung’s coining of the term sychronicity and the controversial synonymity of Nietzsche and the Nazi regimethese seminars coincided with Hitler’s rise in power, and were permanently interrupted in by the outbreak of WW2; not Great lens to view Zarathrustra through, or useful as a window into Jung’s ideas, this transcript gives a comprehensive dissection of Nietzsche’s poetic-philosophic-prophetic masterpiece qua an analysis of the great philologist’s psyche.
Ironically, perhaps, given both Jung’s coining of the term sychronicity and the controversial synonymity of Nietzsche and the Nazi regimethese seminars coincided with Hitler’s rise in power, and were permanently interrupted in by the outbreak of WW2; not before the bulk of Z had been ‘overmentioned’ awful pun. I didn’t finish all the way, but I’m definately not still reading it.
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However, it was fascinating when i was reading it, and I’ll finishi it. I had to put it on hold for school. Now school is a non issue, and i have time lk read: